Tag: straw discourse

It’s okay to change your mind.

thebibliosphere:

the-opal-mermaid:

sirfrogsworth:

A while back a ton of people saw a video of a turtle with a straw stuck up its nose. I was one of them. It was very sad. 

So when places started proposing we ban plastic straws, I was like…

“Yeah! Fuck straws!”

But then the disabled community spoke up and tried to inform everyone that plastic bendy straws are essential for people with various health issues. Without them, people might end up having to make the choice of whether or not they can consume liquids in public. And that really sucks.

This community put a lot of thought and research into this and was unable to find another material that could be a suitable replacement in every circumstance.

They proposed a system where you could just ask for straws rather than places giving them out all willy-nilly. This would still reduce the use of plastic straws significantly without screwing disabled folks. 

I assessed this new information and…

I CHANGED MY DAMN MIND. 

*gasp* “The Frogman is a flip-flopper!”

Naively, I figured most people who consumed this new information would do the same. 

But it ended up being a mixed bag of mostly sullen disappointment. 

As I read the comments on various articles I noticed a weird phenomenon where people magically transformed into materials scientists. 

Disabled groups thought long and hard about this. These groups did some great in-depth research. And all these groups pretty much came to a unanimous consensus that there are currently no satisfactory alternative solutions. They also found that plastic straws are actually a drop in the bucket of our waste issues. Furthermore, the “straws on demand” solution would make that drop pretty frickin’ tiny. The overall risk to turtle noses would go way down.

Despite seeing these conclusions thoroughly presented to them, people would think about the issue for about 30 seconds and be like…

“Okay, but what about paper straws? What about reusable straws? What about this? What about that? I have a metal straw that works great! Surely that will do!”

These internet dunderheads actually believed their 30-second brainstorm would come up with a sufficient solution that has not been thought of yet. 

As if the entire disabled community is going to be like, “We did all of this research, spent all of this time looking for alternatives, committed all of these resources to spread our conclusions, BUT WE NEVER KNEW ABOUT PAPER STRAWS! Thank you, kind stranger! You have single-handedly solved this dilemma!”

I just have trouble wrapping my head around the kind of ego one must have to think they could solve an issue like this with an internet comment. 

What makes it worse is some of these “what about” comments would be replies to actual disabled people. These sudden experts in the science of materials would start suggesting straw alternatives. And these disabled folks, who are probably exhausted and at their wit’s end, must decide if they should give these individuals explanations of why these genius suggestions won’t work for them. 

“I know you aren’t feeling well, but can you do all of the research for me so I don’t have to spend 2 minutes googling shit?” 

And when you try to tell these people they are being ableist and kinda shitty, they act like a wounded animal. Suddenly they are the victim. THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO HELP! Not trusting people who live with these problems is the height of privilege. And forcing them to make their experiences relateable while remaining calm and polite is exhausting. 

Then someone made this amazing chart that couldn’t possibly make it any easier to comprehend. 

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And people were still responding to it with…

“OKAY, BUT WHAT ABOUT…?”

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In conclusion…

IT’S OKAY TO CHANGE YOUR DAMN MIND.

Also…

YOU’RE NOT AS SMART AS YOU THINK YOU ARE.

(Unless you actually are a materials scientist and you are developing an alternative as we speak.) 

@thebibliosphere for your discourse hell.

@sirfrogsworth thank you for this, and for perfectly encapsulating what this whole experience has been like as a disabled/ill person who a) recently found out using a plastic straw greatly reduces my neuralgia pain and risk of aspiration, b) talked about it on the internet and c) has been living with relentless hate email, and redundant “but have you tried…” comments ever since.

And thank you for thinking about the subject with critical compassion and changing your mind, and being open enough to talking about the fact that you changed your mind. I think some people think changing their mind means they’ve made some sort of moral failing sometimes, and would rather continue to be wrong/hurtful but feel right, than actually address their own behavior and question their motives.

So thank you. Again. For this and the *barks internally* caption, it’s a mood 😂